Divergent Book and Movie Fansite
Tobias was not satisfied with the changes happening in Dauntless, from being a good faction to one turning more violent. He was already thinking of becoming factionless before Tris came into the picture and her presence inspired him to stay...remember,he wanted to be all things from each faction. Therefore,all the tatoos. He was able to connect with Tris in a positive way..falling in love with her strength and knowing she was Divergent as he also thought he was. I do think he was weak where his mother was concerned, he wanted and needed her love even knowing she deciieved him. He hated his father for many reason. I see him as a sad,broken man without Tris in his life. I hated VR killing Tris in Allegiant. It was so wrong in my opinion.It will be hard seeing the movie this March, knowing they will never be together in the end.
this is such an interesting take on Four. still mulling things over on what to say about this, but in the meantime, sticking this up with DFC's Spotlight threads :)
I agree with this. I also notice a distinct personality switch from the first book, starting in the second. In the beginning it isn't easy to change his mind, he isn't as insecure as he is in the second and third books. I also noticed that Veronica doesn't do a very good job of writing from a male characters point of view. I think she made him way to moody. I am sorry but tobias wasn't always like that, in divergent he was a rock, and in allegiant he is this wilting pansy with mommy daddy issues. If he has spent his entire life dealing with this on his own and refusing to talk about it he will not suddenly start expressing all of this emotion about it. I felt like it was only there to cause conflict with tris. this was all very disappointing to me because I really liked his character before this.
I agree with this. Tobias was very gullible in Allegiant, and I found it very out of character for him (especially following Nita's plan). I did not like him very much in the 3rd book. I feel like Allegiant is definitely the weakest book of the three. It is almost like VR didn't know how to create conflict between Tris and Tobias, so she went with whatever silliness came into her head, regardless of whether it actually made sense. I generally felt like after he found out he wasn't divergent, it all went south from that point on. Tris dying was the worst part of it, but by then, it was already a disappointing book on many levels.
I agree that his character some what changes through the series and after completing the series if i read the first book again my idea has changed. however, the books are good no matter what you are saying about how his character develops though the first 2 books were better than the last because of Tris's death.